GENERAL PERSPECTIVE
MOVING NOW FROM [ -0+ ] TO [ -0.1+ ]
[-0+] Isaiah 57:15; A PLACE IN ETERNITY WHERE ONLY GOD[THE FATHER]EXISTS and/or EXISTED: OLAM, AND HIS MIND ~ THE MIND OF GOD ITSELF !
[ -0.1+ ] REPRESENTS A PLACE IN ETERNITY BEFORE EVEN THE PERSONIFICATION OF JESUS CHRIST [ WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING ] WAS BROUGHT FORTH.i.e.
Proverbs 8:24
When there were no depths, I was brought forth; PRIOR TO WHICH, BEFORE WHICH TIME, THE SON WAS STILL IN ALL " WITH THE FATHER " i.e. John 1: 1-2;
John 1
1]In the beginning was the Word, and [ the Word was with God,] and the Word was God.
2]The same was [ in the beginning ] with God.
i.e. HAD NOT BEEN AS OF YET BROUGHT FORTH AS A DISTINCT AND INDIVIDUAL ENTITY...
1st./ HERE, THERE WERE NO DEPTHS = we are talking about a place in Eternity where and when " there were no depths " i.e. no ever expanding universe nor dark matter. SIMPLY, NOTHINGNESS !!! i.e. THE STUFF GOD HANGS THE EARTH ON ( WHEN IT COMES TIME OF THE EARTH'S CREATION )!!!
Job 26:7
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
2nd./ THIS IS BEFORE THE CREATION OF " the heaven and the earth " and,
3rd./ EVEN BEFORE THE PERSONIFICATION OF JESUS CHRIST WAS EVER EVEN BROUGHT FORTH !!!
4th./ WHAT THEN EXISTS HERE ?
THE WORD !!! THAT WHICH IS GOD HIMSELF !!! AND THE ETERNITY HE INHABITS !!!
Jonn 1:1,2; Is. 57:15;
5th./ WHAT IS THIS WORD MADE OF ? WHAT IS IT EXACTLY SPOKEN OF HEREBY, THIS WORD ?
ANS. don't know yet....
THERE ARE HOWeVER, SOME CLUES.....
John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
" the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, " = words are spirit i.e. they are spiritual things / metaphysical things.
AND, THEY " quickeneth "
THEY " create " i.e. have generative power !!!
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
2 Peter 3:4-6
King James Version (KJV)
4]And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5]For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6th./ " For the invisible things of him "
" things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. "
THE INVISIBLE THINGS OF HIM
7th./ It may well speak of the atomic/subatomic phenomena that underscores every things we know of.... EVEN, " God's eternal power and godhead "
-or- MORE LIKELY, IT SPEAKS OF THE NOUMENA THAT UNDERSCORES THE PHENOMENA ITSELF......
8th./ IN ANY CASE, IT IS, a./ " understood by the things that are made " and, b./ " clearly seen from the creation of the world "
9th./ THENCE, GOD, HIS LIGHT, HIS SPIRIT, HIS WORD, HIS INVISIBLE KIND OF STUFF AMOUNTS TO AND IS THE NOUMENA AND THE ATOMIC/SUBATOMIC STUFF OF PHENOMENA WE ARE TALKING ABOUT - WHICH CREATED IT ALL !!! THIS IS WHO AND WHAT GOD IS AND THE ETERNITY HE INHABITS !!! AND IS WHAT IT IS ALL MADE UP OF !!!
10th./ THEREFORE, IT IS HERE WE MUST BEGIN !!! [ -0+ ] AND [ -0.1+ ]
SO, THIS FAR UP THE LADDER WE GO.......
11th./ NOW, IF WE TAKE Ephe. 3:9; and Jn. 1:3; literally........
Ephesians 3:9
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
THEN,
a./ BEFORE EVIL, DARKNESS, DEPTHS, CREATION AS WE KNOW IT ( hence, perhaps even atoms and subatomic stuff )WISDOM ( I AM UNDERSTANDING ) WAS BROUGHT FORTH 1ST, OF ALL THINGS - BEFORE ANYTHING AT ALL WAS CREATED ( THAT WAS CREATED ) .
Proverbs 8:24-26
King James Version (KJV)
24When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
12th./ I SAY, " before evil " BECAUSE, " evil " IS/WAS A CREATED THING....
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
12a./ I SAY, " before darkness " BECAUSE, " darkness " IS/WAS A CREATED THING....
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
12b./ I SAY, " before depths " BECAUSEOF, Proverbs 8:24] " When there were no depths,..." IS IN KEEPING WITH & IN ACCORDANCE TO/WITH THE SCRIPTURES OF GOD'S WORD.
12c./ I SAY, " before CREATION AS WE KNOW IT " BECAUSE, " CREATION AS WE KNOW IT " IS/ARE CREATED THINGS....HAVING A BEGINNING AND A TIME BEFORE THINGS WERE EVER EVEN CREATED...AND, BECAUSEOF, Proverbs 8:26;] WHICH IS IN KEEPING WITH & IN ACCORDANCE TO/WITH THE SCRIPTURES OF GOD'S WORD.
12d./ I SAY, " BEFORE ANYTHING AT ALL WAS CREATED ( THAT WAS CREATED ) " because, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WERE NOT CREATED !!! e.g. GOD, WAS NOT CREATED, HIS SON, WAS NOT CREATED, GOOD(-NESS), HAS NO ACCOUNT IN THE WORD OF GOD AS BEING CREATED, whereas, evil does; POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE FORCES....point being, THERE EXISTS THINGS THAT WERE NOT CREATED !!!!
SO, THIS FAR UP THE LADDER WE GO.......
13th./ IT MAY WELL BE A GOOD IDEA, AT THIS POINT, TO COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF JUST WHO AND WHAT
GOD IS, IN THIS CONTEXT.....
13a./ SINCE WE HAVE THE " term " GOD, this is merely a title that refers to an entity/being.........
13b./ HOWEVER, WHAT THIS ENTITY/BEING IS, IS " WORD " THE NOUMENAL MATRIX OF PSYCHIC PHENOMENA ITSELF !!! JER. 29:11; CONSCIOUSNESS, MIND, THOUGHT, THINKING, INTELLECT, INTELLIGENCE, WORD ORIENTED WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING !!! IN THE NOUMENAL SENSE - WHICH, " quickeneth " " creates " i.e. has generative power !!! AFTER THE KIND THAT IS GOD, WHICH IS GOOD !!!
AS IT IS WRITTEN, John 14:9
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
John 14:8-10
King James Version (KJV)
8]Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9]Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
10]Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
13c./ " the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works." JER. 29:11;
13d./ THE VERY SUBSTANCE OF " spirit and life "
John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
13e./ THE HEARD, SEEN, THOUGHT, READ, SPOKEN, WRITTEN, KNOWN AND KNOWABLE, MANIFEST WORD OF GOD IS !!! AND IS THE SUBSTANCE AND ESSENCE OF " spirit and life " ITSELF !!!
13f./ THUS, IT IS WRITTEN, Proverbs 4:23
Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.
Psalm 17:15
As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.